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How To Raise Revenue And Fund Job Creation Without Raising Taxes (A Solution Campaign Donors Would Not Like You To Consider)

Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:19 AM EST
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By mightyj
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 Our nation faces some very challenging times. The loss of so many jobs to overseas industry and the collapse of the housing market have left a void in our economy that has so far been filled with a lot of borrowing by our government and bail outs for our "Too big to fail" lending institutions. The government cannot continue indefinitely borrowing money at the present level yet stimulus is needed to keep our economy afloat while we look for new ways to provide goods and services to the rest of the world and ourselves that will keep our population gainfully employed and enough taxes rolling in to pay the bills of our society. In the face of these difficulties, there has been very little new ideas coming from our government and a lot of rehashing of old ones.

Raising taxes on the wealthy is a popular solution with a majority of our population. While that may need to be done at some point it is useful to note that raising taxes does not always equal raising revenue. The wealthy are exceptionally skilled at getting out of paying taxes which goes back to the old saying, "You don't get rich by giving it away." Lobbying for tax cuts is a big industry in Washington and accounts for a large percentage of donations and benefits for our law makers. If lobbying for tax cuts were made illegal tomorrow the standard of living of politicians would decrease significantly. Riding around in limousines on the way to fancy dinners and parties would be replaced with driving themselves home to get some mac and cheese and possibly some of Costco's boxed wine.
 
Lowering taxes has been suggested by some as a way to stimulate the economy. (The politicians that really like the dinners and parties are big supporters). Another stimulus package has been suggested but the additional borrowing needed to fund that makes it seem unlikely except in a "Too little too late" type of scenario. Increased spending on roads and such has been helping a lot but the funding for that has pretty much run out and we are about to dump 100,000 newly unemployed soldiers into a job market that is already struggling to keep folks employed. I guess I should mention the idea that austerity measures are needed to fix our nation's issues but enacting austerity measures in a struggling economy is the surest way to achieve a downward economic spiral. (Just check out the action in Greece).

The obvious problem with many of these ideas is they don't really address the issue. If you raise taxes it is likely that jobs will be lost and possibly revenue. If you increase borrowing to stimulate the economy without raising revenue you will create jobs but create more debt problems and possibly a further downgrade of the US government credit rating making it more costly to borrow money later on. Austerity measures will likely decrease revenue and cause dramatic job loss. Tax cuts are the equivilant of more borrowing and haven't proven to create that many jobs. With all of that in mind I propose a simple idea that both creates jobs and raises revenue without taxing anybody more than they are now.
 
Stated simply, I propose a system of Regional Public Lending Corporations to promote commerce and inject new revenue into our shaky economy. By allowing public lending corporations to form at the state level with the mission of providing financial services to the state's citizens the revenue generating powers of fractional reserve banking can be utilized to fund a portion of the needs of our society. During the financial collapse the tax payers of the United States were left holding the bag when our private lenders over extended themselves. Allowing these same banks to borrow money from the federal reserve at zero percent and loan it back to the federal government at current bond rates or to the citizenry at even higher interest rates has been incredibly expensive and a major part of that cost can be seen in a lack-luster recovery that has brought few jobs and little relief.
 
Since the US government is the lender of last resort it would not be much of a stretch to allow the states to be primary lenders for the citizenry. State lending corporations and their private partners could start with the extremely lucrative revolving credit market. Imagine if you could make a balance transfer to a public lender who is mandated to return a high percentage of all interest payments into a fund that creates jobs and services in your state. Since paying interest is like a voluntary tax why not invest those voluntary contributions into our society creating jobs for your neighbors and fellow citizens. Turning interest payments into a contribution to our society and nation would stimulate spending and help to create even more jobs. 

Perhaps you think the money involved is too small to make a difference. Well here are a few statistics provide by Creditcards.com to give you an idea of what I am talking about. 

 Average credit card debt per household with  credit card debt: $15,799* 

  • 609.8 million credit cards held by U.S.  consumers. (Source: "The Survey of Consumer Payment  Choice," Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, January 2010) 

  • Average number of credit cards held by cardholders: 3.5, as of yearend 2008 (Source: "The Survey of Consumer Payment Choice,"  Federal Reserve Bank of Boston, January 2010)

  • Average APR on new credit card offer: 14.89 percent (Source: CreditCards.com  Weekly Rate Report, July 20, 2011.)

  • Average APR on credit card with a balance on it: 13.10 percent, as of May  2011 (Source: Federal Reserve's G.19 report on  consumer credit, released July 2011)

  • Total U.S. revolving debt (98 percent of  which is made up of credit card debt): $793.1 billion, as of May  2011 (Source: Federal Reserve's G.19 report on consumer credit, released  July 2011)

       Information provided by CreditCards.com;

  •  Based on the above information 98 percent of 793 billion dollars loaned at 13.1 percent averages out to 101 billion dollars a year in interest payments for credit card debt alone. At the state level that is the kind of money that gets things done. Public lenders and their private partners could seek to expand that market by offering flat rate cards with a moderate interest rate that don't engage in the practice of kicking consumers when they are down. A lot of consumers are defaulted by lenders that offer low "teaser" rates at first then use any excuse possible to jack the interest rate as high as possible especially at the worst possible moment causing default which is bad not only for the consumer but for the community they live in.
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    There are other lending markets that could benefit from the participation of public lenders. The total US consumer debt was 2.43 trillion dollars as of May 2011. We are talking about loans for consumer goods that do not have as high an interest rate but are secured with material collateral (like cars and stuff). This would be an area where the public lending corporations could stimulate new spending and job growth when needed by helping consumers and businesses to purchase things they need while providing even more revenue to their state.
     
    The total US mortgage debt is 10.54 trillion dollars. Competitive lending in this area would provide a considerable amount of revenue for public lenders especially now that home values are beginning to level off. Interest payments on residential mortgages that are returned to the State of Alaska general fund in the form of dividends from the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (a public lender in Alaska with a AAA credit rating) have totaled 1.9 billion dollars since 1986 and that is just from the profit generated by lending money bonded from the Permanent Fund.  Impressive when you consider a State having little more than 500,000 people in the 1980's.

    If you click the links you can see that some public lenders exist at the state level and they can be very effective in providing people with homes even in a financial collapse like the one we are experiencing. While the rest of the nation was experiencing predatory lending and adjustable rate mortgage reset defaults, Alaska had a competitive credit market for mortgages that included some very good fixed long term interest rates and a lot of programs for earning a lower rate like energy efficiency rate adjustments. When I got my AHFC home loan in 2004 I improved my home from a 2 star to a 4 plus star energy efficiency rating and reduced my interest rate by .75 percent in that program. (AHFC does not loan money for luxury homes and is limited in the amount they can lend.) I cite the performance of this public lender and the stabilizing influence it had on credit markets in Alaska as evidence of the effectiveness of public lenders in the mortgage lending field.
     
    I do not propose putting any of our current crop of "too big to fail" lenders out of business. I do suggest downsizing them by allowing public lenders to compete with them for the business of taxpayers like myself would be a good idea, a job creating idea. By using a corporate structure and organizing these institutions to act as profit generating corporations with the citizens of the region as both the customers and in many ways the stock holders we could increase revenue for many job creating programs re-investing the money directly back into the tax base.
      
    With so much wealth accumulating into fewer and fewer hands, this is exactly the kind of push back that is necessary to return some much needed revenue to the people and the tax base.

    I could easily write more on this topic but I think this sufficiently states the proposal to raise revenue and fund job creation without increasing taxes.

    Ps- If you are wondering how this would work, a small loan from the federal government would serve as the seed money for these new regional lenders. Fractional reserve banking would take care of the rest.

     Here is a fun video that dramatizes a simplified explanation of Fractional Reserve Banking

    A little skit on Fractional Reserve Banking from the documentary, "Trading On Thin Air"

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    mightyj

    I would like to thank Dr. Mom for helping me with editing this article.

    • 7 votes
    Reply#1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:21 AM EST
    Halle-4328936

    Hi - that little skit is a lifted piece from the full length feature Trading on Thin Air links are at Tradingonthinair.com

    It would be nice if people are lifting pieces of it and putting it on you-tube (who do not have a right to display it) that the full film's links are put in to help get the message out - the film is on Thanks!

      #1.1 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:14 AM EST
      mightyj

      I didn't, "lift that skit" from the documentary (Which I watched for free on Netflix) I just linked to it. The problem with the original words the person who posted it on Youtube put at the bottom of it is that they were way to sales pitchy and it looked like an advertisement to sell something.

      I didn't want to violate website policy by posting advertising. That said it was a really good documentary that I think is worth watching (Which is why I sought this skit on Youtube~~~For some reason I knew it would be there).

      Ps On you tube I am MightyJJ1 and that is where you will find my videos which are all original works -----mightyj was taken.

      • 2 votes
      #1.2 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:06 PM EST
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      G. H.

      jj! Wonderful to see you! Been wondering how you are. I'm not very good with the sort of thing this article talks about, but it sounds good, sounds simple. Don't think some of the *power$ that be* would be too thrilled by it though, sounds too fair! :-)

      • 6 votes
      Reply#2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:14 AM EST
      mightyj

      Hi GH!! I haven't been writing very much lately.

      Don't think some of the *power$ that be* would be too thrilled by it though, sounds too fair!

      Those large sums of money are in fact somebody's future cookie jar and that crowd has a lot of money to give to politicians to ensure that nothing ever comes between them and the cookies.

      • 6 votes
      #2.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:25 AM EST
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      markpup

      I gave this some thought and I like your idea. It is fascinating to me that even though interest is at an all-time low, small businesses can't get loans or when they do, they have to pay credit card usurious style interest. We should do what you're saying at the national level, but there's too much special interest to keep it the way it is.

      Even if we do that, we'll still have to pay down debt. I'm one of the ones that think hard core austerity which includes raising taxes and cutting defense and services is the only way out and it will be hard. But regardless of that making capital to start and expand businesses is a great and way overdue idea.

      It's of interest to read how Jackson killed the US Bank and why he did it. We don't have a US Bank today, but we have the same problems we had then where an elite ran the system that largely benefited the most wealthy and blocked access to cash and capital for the average middle class American. Today that most wealthy exists as giant corporations rather than wealthy individuals but the concept is the same. All this while out the other side of their mouth they're yelling about "free" market.

      • 6 votes
      Reply#3 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:39 AM EST
      mightyj

      while out the other side of their mouth they're yelling about "free" market.

      It would be funny to field complaints about "free markets," from the bail out crowd.

      • 2 votes
      #3.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:55 PM EST
      markpup

      Yessir couldn't agree more. I'd be even happier if the Democrats would stand up and take full and complete advantage of giant low hanging fruit like this.

      • 2 votes
      #3.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:20 PM EST
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      ERich-356044

      Interesting!!! I like the idea! Even rolling over your existing card debt is generating money.

      The amount of credit card debt is staggering..... so glad I'm debt free!

      • 5 votes
      Reply#4 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:40 AM EST
      mightyj

      Debt free is good. (: US consumer debt has grown a lot over the last decade.

        #4.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:33 PM EST
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        dwillie

        That is a fascinating idea, jj.

        • 5 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:53 AM EST
        mightyj

        dwillie- Thank you for dropping by to read it. (:

        • 1 vote
        #5.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:55 PM EST
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        Grisham

        Very interesting and well written article, JJ. I think eventually the US will have to raise taxes. Another solution is to stop spending so much on the military and put that money into other things like infrastructure, health care etc.

        Great job. Very impressive article!

        • 3 votes
        Reply#6 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:00 AM EST
        mightyj

        Grisham- Taxes will probably have to be raised at some point but one would hope that would be done at a time when it would help slow down an over stimulated economy (2003 or 4 would have been a good time for that.) I don't think some gradual tax increases to help with the defecit would make much of a difference in the economy right now but any sharp increase could be detrimental to our recovery.

        Cutting military spending needs to happen. The only way I can see justification for keeping it at the level it has been is if we become involved in 3 wars.

          #6.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:31 PM EST
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          Shub Tnediserp Remrof

          There's a flaw in your proposal. You want to make the smaller business have the same equal rights as the big banks. You do that and they are going to be just as greedy and thus making a bigger mess. Big banks aren't going to allow it and the government agrees with the big banks on this issue. I'm sure its a great idea in theory by allowing the consumers as the stockholders, but you got to remember "corporations are people" (thanks to the Judicial system in this country we call USA). Once corporations get into these banks they will become another big bank making it far worse

          • 2 votes
          Reply#7 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:24 AM EST
          RobPlumley

          The "flaw" you point out can easily be dealt with by reinstating the banking regulations that were in place prior to them being removed.

          The premise of the author's proposal is that too much money (at an incredible low interest rate) is directed to big banks, and there is no incentive for them to push this money to the economy.

          However, if regional or state charter banks - including credit unions - would be the recipient of this money, you would see greater investment at the local level.

          I would also add to this proposal by separating the functions of banking and investing, and prohibiting any fiduciary relationships between them. I would outlaw the use of derivatives and other complex and exotic financial instruments, unless they can be thoroughly modeled and regulated. Currently, we know very little of these instruments but they have an enormous hold on trillions of dollars.

          • 4 votes
          #7.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:10 AM EST
          mightyj

          corporations are people"

          Public corporations are just people who donate all of their profits to the citizenry. (:

            #7.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:23 PM EST
            Shub Tnediserp Remrof

            I was watching some doom show on the history channel yesterday and it reminded me of this article.

            Why add credit when credit got us in this mess in the first place?

            In 2008 we came microscopically close to a total collapse of the system then the banks and government added more garbage credit to delay the process. Even if your process was flaw proof it wouldn't get passed until after the total collapse which could happen within the decade how everything is linked. if your going to implement a new banking infrastructure it would be wise to create a new currency with it.

            • 1 vote
            #7.3 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 9:56 AM EST
            mightyj

            A lot of banks (especially regional ones) went under during the collapse of the financial system. This created a situation where the "Too big to fail" banks got even larger from inheriting the broke ones. Make no mistake about it I am not proposing public banks. I am proposing public lending corporations that return their profits to help fund our broke-a$$ society.

            The government is borrowing 3 billion dollars a day to stay afloat right now. Do you really think people opening up some new credit cards (mostly to replace the old ones) is going to matter? The only folks public lending is going to bother are the banks that compete for credit and loans. They will probably find themselves having to be a little more fair and give a slightly better deal to their customers because of the competition.

            Business as usual is exactly what would happen if something like this was implemented. They would cry a river of tears on Wall Street for nothing and in the end it would just be some revenue to fund state jobs and services and a little more liquidity on the lower tiers.

            • 2 votes
            #7.4 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 8:14 PM EST
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            Vlad's dog

            Nice piece JJ, informative, well thought out and a very interesting solution.

            Big banks don't really care about the little things anymore, if it is not a big invesment with a big return they don't really care if it is good or not for the community.

            Small and local lending institutuions are a great way to get local money back into the local community.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#8 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:29 AM EST
            mightyj

            Vlad's- One vision I had when writing this article was a credit card that supports green jobs. All of the interest generated would go towards alternative energy projects and such. Something to help secure our nation's future power needs.

            It isn't what I proposed here because there is an existing precident for a public lending corporation at the state level that works really well and co-exists and partners with other lenders. When I had my mortgage with AHFC the fact that my interest payments for my house were going back to the community in the form of money for the state and dividends paid to the people (2 to 3,000 dollars for every resident big or small lately) I thought that was pretty cool and a good idea.

            Speaking of job creation you should see what happens every October when the dividend checks arrive. When every person in a state gets a check at the same time goods and services get purchased, college gets saved for (every kid that grows up in Alaska can go to college if they just don't spend their dividend money.)

            I am not sure if public lending would be a good idea at the national level but at the state level it can work when properly administered.

            • 2 votes
            #8.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:20 PM EST
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            Thinknaboutit

            SOCIALIST!!!

            Just kidding, count me in!

            • 3 votes
            Reply#9 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:47 AM EST
            markpup

            What's funny about that to me is right now, big business and banks have a monopoly on capital which by no stretch of the imagination is free market. And what we want here is free market - arm-s length access to capital for everyone. This interesting suggestion even allows states to get in the game and create even more competition.

            Meanwhile we'll watch those big businesses yell for free market out the other side of their mouth.

            • 5 votes
            #9.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 3:44 PM EST
            mightyj

            SOCIALIST!!!

            I have always thought of myself as a card carrying capitalist but perhaps I do have a touch of socialism going on.

            I like to think that these thoughts have more to do with my preference for living in a republic and not a plutocracy.

            • 1 vote
            #9.2 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:53 PM EST
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            bore-head007

            Maybe it is time to create something that is nonexistent.

            Socially responsible lending venues.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#10 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:49 PM EST
            Davy-755715

            Merely making lending easier would really make things better? If it's for a business to make things, where's the money to buy the stuff supposed to come from, with the wage compression?

            I've got my own idea, as I've stated before: Phase in a make-it-here-to-sell-it here policy. Some people, primarily wealthy investors, view "globalism" as a store: Wages paid for what they want or invest in, should be at the global standard; but their OWN take? Well, that's where the good ol' American standard shines! Let's make a level playing field where all the marbles don't automatically roll to the top...

            • 2 votes
            Reply#11 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:19 PM EST
            warrior wheatman

            AHFC, is that the Alaska (home financing fund?) fund that collects and distributes the oil bonanza to citizens? Alaska has one leg up on the rest of the country with this.

            Your suggestion -- I like it. Wondering how different it is from a savings-and-loan. I'll have to look into this.

            • 1 vote
            Reply#12 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:40 PM EST
            mightyj

            Interest payments on residential mortgages that are returned to the State of Alaska general fund in the form of dividends from the Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (a public lender in Alaska with a AAA credit rating) have totaled 1.9 billion dollars since 1986.....

            That is a lot of dough for a state with 500,000 and some people.

            • 1 vote
            #12.1 - Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:48 PM EST
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            Mrs D-1475814

            If lobbying for tax cuts were made illegal tomorrow the standard of living of politicians would decrease significantly.

            I would so love to see that happen. :) You have posted an excellent article and much to think about. I haven't had a credit card for so many years after we paid them off and I never wanted one again. If fact, when we had the trip to Maine, my brother-in-law and sister, they told me not to use my debit card out of town. I will re-read your article again tomorrow as I am here late and ready for sleep. Thanks! (((((JJ♥))))))

            • 2 votes
            Reply#13 - Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:31 PM EST
            mightyj

            (((((((((Mrs D)))))))))

            • 1 vote
            #13.1 - Wed Feb 1, 2012 12:33 AM EST
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            weRdoomed

            Why do you think this is something our governments fail to understand?

            On the other hand -- isn't this the mob?

            We ought to bring back the mob. They knew how to get things done -- they generated jobs, controlled the population, relieved the burden on the criminal justice system (by taking care of it themselves), and kept the leather jacket companies in business.

            • 2 votes
            Reply#14 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:18 PM EST
            mightyj

            The mob got brought down by tax evation charges and an army of rats. The government has their own little group of nibblers bringing the whole country down.

            • 2 votes
            #14.1 - Thu Feb 2, 2012 3:31 PM EST
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